i'm bill hemmer live in boston. see you throughout the day hereg continues. patti ann browne good to be with you also patti ann: it was gate to see you. have a good day, everyone. "happening now" starts right now. jenna: brand-new stories and breaking news. jon: -p the tribute to the victims of the boston marathon bombings underway. president obama attending a church service a mile away. as many as 15 people may be dead and more than 160 hurt in a massive fertilizer plant explosion. letters tainted with deadly poison are set to the president and a united states senator. it's all "happening now." a lot of news to bring to you on this thursday morning. "happening now" president obama will speak at a memorial service for victims of the boston

marathon bombings in just a few minutes. good morning i'm jon scott. jenna: i'm jenna lee. we will dip in and out of this interfaith service at boston's cathedral of the holy cross. you can see just a beautiful cathedral the service just getting underway. this is just about a mile from the site of the twin opl bombings on monday where three people were killed and 176 wounded in the worst terror attack on american soil since september 11th. we are live in boston with more. rick. >> reporter: as you might imagine very heavy security in the streets outside the cathedral here that have been shut down. we have boston police s.w.a.t. team members behind us as well as hundreds of officers lining the road here. you can see a lot of of the folks behind barricades. the line began before dawn this morning to get into the cathedral, and about an hour ago it was shut down. some of the folks have stuck around even though they can't really hear or see inside the cathedral where the president will be comforting a community that is obviously deep in mourning.

he will meet with victims and first responders and deliver a message of resolve. a message of commonalty that we all people as americans with the people of boston, those visiting the marathon who endured this horrific event and demonstrated bravery in the aftermath. the first lady, michelle obama also here. she said yesterday after the attack that it's a reminder in times of crisis we respond with courage and grit and selflessness. this is the spirit of boston, it is also the spirit of the country. again, jenna the president here to reassure this community and let them know that the country is behind them as they recover from that awful terror attack on monday? we expect to hear from the president as you mentioned, rick in about 45 minutes from now. we'll bring our viewers back to the cathedral when the president begins to speak. you've been doing so much reporting about this investigation. what is the latest you have, rick about those reported photos, about potential suspects? >> reporter: well, we know that federal law enforcement officials are telling fox that they do have images, and videos

that they have been scanning and carefully scrutinizing, and they do have, they are telling fox, video of a possible suspect placing at least one of the devices at the scene, and there is debate within the law enforcement community and within the fbi have whether or not to release that video to the public, a debate obviously over whether or not it will serve their purposes and the ultimate goal of catching the man or men responsible for this attack. so, we know that there is video, and there are images, that are a possible suspect, and the question now is when or if we'll ever see those images. jenna: we'll be back to you with more development as they come, rick. thank you so much. >> i don't know how many folks may still be trapped in rubble. they have not been able to give me much more on the damage, other than to say that there is a significant area around the

fertilizer plant that has been destroyed. homes have been destroyed. there are homes flattened. part of that community is gone. jon: a sergeant at the wako police department describing the scene in texas after an explosion ripped through a fertilizer plant near waco last night. we are told between five and 15 people have been killed, another 170 are hurt. the situation is still very fluid. those are early estimates and the numbers are expected to change. the blast so powerful it measured a 2.1 on the richter scale and could be felt as narcotic as 50 miles away. we are also learning that some of the volunteer firefighters who responded to the call are missing. casey stegall is live in west texas near the scene of the blast. the blast caught on a cellphone camera, cas? >> reporter: yes, it was. i want to address those missing or unaccounted for firefighters that you just talked about. all morning long we had heard

that there were five. we discovered that one of the firefighters has been found alive at a hospital. [no audio] >> reporter: to that cellphone video, this whole thing started as a fire that was just burning near the fertilizer plant, and investigators initially went there, they were trying to get the flames under control. some guy pulls off along the side of the road, pulls out his smartphone, starts recording the fire, but little did he know what was about to happen next. take a look. >> i was actually picked up and thrown about ten feet. i was standing at the end of my bed and where i landed was by the bathroom about ten feet away in the house. >> what did you think hit you? >> i thought lightning at first, it was the bright flash and thunder.

they said there was supposed to be thunderstorms tonight. when i realized the roof caved in i said that can't be lightning because that wouldn't cause the roof to cave in. >> reporter: that is sound with an eyewitness not the cellphone video we were talking about. we can get that cued up. it was incredible, a giant explosion, a fireball shot 100 feet or so into the sky, and it just rattled people. you heard that man talking about how it lifted him off the ground. i talked to a woman earlier who says she was driving in her car and the concussion lifted her car off the ground and set it right back down. so, let's get you now brand-new day-light pictures coming from the news choppers hovering above, and these are the first images we're starting to see of just how widespread the damage is over a five-block area, houses flattened, and, jon, more than 160 people have been

treated at area hospitals. we are awaiting a news conference to begin any moment from now, just to my right at the media center where we're located. and we are hoping to learn new details with that about to begin. jon: obviously it's going to take a longtime to figure out exactly what caused this. but a fertilizer plant, you know they had to be storing chemicals. is that one of the areas they are looking at? >> reporter: yeah, and hydrus ammonia was one of the primarily chemicals stored at that facility. it was such a large operation that there are railroad tracks near it and rail supplies. supplies would come in on the rail cars, and then they would supply local farmers in this area. this is a very small community, only about 2800 people or so, primarily farmers, and so this was obviously a key component to this community, because so many relied on getting their fertilizer. yes, the federal investigators

on their way. atf its going to be here, as well as the federal agency from d.c. that investigates chemical and industrial accidents. right from the get go they have been calling this a crime scene. but we are told that is sort of standard operating procedure, that there is no evidence that a crime was committed here, no evidence of foul play, they say they just have to make sure no stone goes unturned, and they say as of right now all signs point to this being a tragic, unfortunate accident, jon. jon: wow, so sad, so scary. casey stegall in texas, thank you. jenna: more information coming out by the moment. we're getting a press briefing right now from law enforcement in the area in west texas. we are listening in on that. if there is news we will bring that to you. in the meantime joining us on the phone is anita foster the chief communications officer for the american red cross in the north texas region. she is currently in west texas now. anita before we get to what is

next, describe for us if you would what the last few hours have been like? >> it's been really difficult. when we got into town last night our teams that came up from austin we encountered groups of people that had been through a really frightening and traumatic and devastating event for their community. and so there was a local community center, this is their home, they need to come here and gather here, so we set out supplies and allowed people to, you know, just come in, talk to each other, try to check on their loved ones, make sure their relatives, neighbors were okay. a lot of that going on last night. but, you know, some positives too because we saw so many people come by making offers to help, i mean people were dropping off pizzas, and dropping off, you know, supplies and it was really encouraging to see that these people in the community are very cared for. senator texas certainly is a

special state when it could manies to that too. people really come together like so many communities across this country. what are people telling you about what they saw and heard and experienced when this explosion happened? >> you know, it was so funny, because, you know, everybody has really some common treads through all of their stories, even though they may be different. you hear everything from, i'm in my kitchen and i thought we had an earthquake which is not something that would necessarily happen in this part of texas. people were really confused about what was going on. some people were further away, you heard of people being 20, 30, 40 miles away and having felt the explosion and those much closer in. you hear all stories. i'll tell you what is -- what is the hardest part is it is a small town in the heart of texas. families have known each other their whole lives. their kid grew up together, multigenerational, and everyone knows someone who was deeply

impacted. and, you know, the healing process really hasn't started yet. that takes some time, and so we wanted to be here with the red cross, not just to make sure that people have food and the things that people are familiar with, but also to make sure that our mental health teams are here to talk about how to best cope with something that is this traumatic. jenna: walk us through anita the next couple of days and what is your operation going to look like, if people want to help how can they do so in >> what we're going to be doing as soon as the weather clears, and i look at the sky today and it just remind me so much of how people feel in the town. it is so dark, it is pouring down rain right now, very gloomy. it's very hard for us to get a lot done today, but as soon as this weather clears we're going to be working closely with the emergency officials hoping we can get into the neighborhoods and get some damage assessment going as soon as possible. like i said, making sure that our mental health themes are available to help -- teams are

available to help people copy motion tphacopy motion tphal lee. -- people emotionally. jenna: hour hearts and prayers are with you and your team. we appreciate you're on the ground and we've had a chance to talk to you today. we'll check back in with you. thank you nor the time and best of luck. >> thank you so much. jon: just in that deadly blast so huge it could be seen from space. meteorologist maria mow loan a live with that story. >> reporter: hi, jon. good to see you. this explosion was so horrific and massive that an infrared satellite there space was actually able to capture the heat signature from the ebgts phroeugs. for those of -- exmotion. the explosion was in a town west, texas, about 20 miles north of the city of waco and 80 miles to the south of the city of dallas. take a look at this infrared image coming up.

that spec there is a heat signature that a satellite in space was able to tke tebgt. absolutely amazing that -- detect. absolutely amazing the magnitude of this explosion and as we know devastating as well. it was repbl sterld a registered as a 2.1 earthquake. detected in am rea amarillo. that's what we are looking at, the incredibly powerful explosion that shook the ground. we have had a couple of showers, heavier thunderstorms earlier this morning and jon the weather not cooperating. strong wind out there gusting to 20, even 30 miles per hour. jon: that is not going to help, is it? maria molina. thank you. >> reporter: thanks. jenna: we'll turn next to news out of washington today after the senate rejected expanded background checks and other gun control measures. that is not the only hot button issue on capitol hill. coming up new developments in the battle for immigration reform as the so-called gang of eight, the bi-partisan group that crafted this massive

overhaul bill is now pushing their plan in the senate. a member of the gang of eight senator jeff flake joins us moments from now with an update on that and we'll get his take on the gun control debate as well. that is next.

>> some new information right now on paul kevin curtis, the man who was arrested and accused of sending letters tainted with the deadly poison ricin to president obama as well as mississippi senator roger wicker. jon roberts has that story live from oxford, mississippi. john. >> reporter: good morning to you. we do know that kevin curtis is in jail at the lafayette county jail in oxford, mississippi. he is probably going to have a first appearance in federal court next door some time in afternoon. he can potential ale lee face very serious charges including use of a weapon of mass destruction, terrorism charges, as well as an attempt to commit murder for allegedly sending three letters one to senator

wicker, one to president obama and another one to a district court judge in tupelo, mississippi, sadie holland. that was the first letter to be received on april the 10th. haoerp is what we know about this fella. he lives near the border of tennessee. ef is a part-time musician, an elvis i impersonator by trade and seems to sur scribe to various broad spreur theories when it comes to trafficking in body parts. this whole story may go all the way back to city 99 when he was working as a maintenance contractor for a medical facility in tupelo, during which time he says he came across a refrigerator full of body parts. he said he was shocked about what he saw as an illegal trade in body parts, tried to make a lot of people aware of it. he was kicked off the grounds of the medical center, told to never come back. according to a reporter who did stories on him back in that time that's when he began to unrafpl. i talked to an attorney who used to represent him. he said that definitely mr. curtis is suffering from

some mental problems for which he has not received treatment. in the time after he was kicked off the campus of the mississippi medical center, the north mississippi medical center he started a letter-writing campaign to various politicians, by his own accord at least reports on the internet attributed to his name. to senator wicker, and former mississippi senator trent lott and cochran. never heard back from those people. you'll recall in that letter that was sent to the president and as well as senator wicker, he talked about if you're not part of the process to uncover these things you are part of the problem as well. what is not known, though, jon is whether or not he actually had access to ricin, how ricin could have potential ale lee got even in the letters and when in his mind, if what the fbi says is true he went from simply a letter-writing campaign to something that has mow tension ale lee provoked these very, very serious charges against him, jon. jon: the authorities must be

crawling all over the place where this guy had lived right now, huh? >> reporter: the fbi is up in corinth at the moment. they are treating this crime scene appropriately. don't forget there was ricin, a very, very deadly poison detected, at least preliminary tests on these letters. they are taking all precautions as they try to gather more evidence. we are still trying to get charging documents from the u.s. attorney's office here in oxford. we haven't been able to pry those out from them yet, but we hope by the time he has that first appearance some time this afternoon at the federal courthouse here we'll be able to tell you exactly what charges he's facing. jon: john roberts live in mississippi, thank you. jenna: back to texas a fuse conference underway right tpwhou in that fertilizer plant explosion in west texas. officials say at least 160 people have been injured, there is still no firm death toll or update on the number of missing as you take in this incredible video we have of that explosion. we are hearing that there is also some heavy police presence in the town where there have been at least one report of some

looting being done in the area. more as we get it on a very, very busy breaking news day. more when we get it. we'll be right back.

jon: as we await the president's remarks at the interfaith memorial for victims of the boston marathon bombing, investigators are now pouring over surveillance video images from the day of the attack as they look for clues. let's talk about it now with senator jeff flake, he's a republican from arizona who sits on the foreign relations anjou dish airy committees. he is also a member of the gang of eight that is working on immigration reform, one of the big stories of the week, and certainly of this term in congress. senator flake, thanks very much for being with us. i know -- >> thanks for having me on, jon. jon: you took some time out of a hearing to talk to us and we

appreciate that. what can you tell the american people? there were lots of false alarms yesterday, reports of an arrest in this boston marathon bombing, it turned out not to be the case. what do you say to the american people about your level of confidence that this thing will be revolved? >> i think we are all pretty confident that it will be. we've got to be patient. this taste a while. there is a lot of footage to comb through. a lot of people have been very helpful and inundated the fbi with information. i think that is a good thing and it takes a while to comb through it. >> all right. and then on the other big story of the week, gun control, it was voted down. the proposal that was brought to the senate was voted down yesterday. president obama not very happy about that. here is what he had to say after that vote, listen. all right. i thought we had that but we do not. i'm sorry. at any rate, he said it was basically an embarrassment for

the u.s. senate not to have -- not to have passed the legislation. your response? >> i think there are things that we can do to improve background checks. i think a lot of us had real issues with the mansion-toomey approach. in my case i thought it inch coached into private -- encroached into private sales too much. its not that republicans don't want to do something on this. most of us do. i think all of us do. that wasn't the right approach. hopefully we'll be able to find that. jon: the president obviously had the support of harry reid. harry reid says he's going to do everything he can, move heaven and earth to bring this legislation back in a form that can pass. but it has been said that senator reid, the majority leader didn't do all that he could have done to try to muscle this thing through if he really wanted it. >> well i'm not sure. it failed by a number of votes, so they would have had to do quite a bit more. i think the best thing to do is

change the legislation, and seek broader input on some of measures. i think there are things we can do. i think all of us want to keep guns out of the hand of criminals and those with mental illness. so i think we can do it, we just have to have the right approach and we didn't see it yesterday. >> one of the argument was that the legislation that was proposed would not have changed anything in newtown, connecticut. do you agree? >> well, it's hard to say. i think -- let me just tell you, for myself, i did meet with some of the victims there, and i feel for them, and i think they have every right to be here, and i'm glad they are, but i just think that we need to find the right approach that will not only affect incidents like newtown, or tucson, but that will help with gun violence in general. >> onto immigration, now, you are part of the -- what has become known of the gang of eight, a bi-partisan group, four

democrats, four republicans trying to change this nation's immigration laws. we finally got a look at that 844-page bill. there are some decrying one of the figures, the fact that the border would be required to be certified as secure before some of the other reforms could take place. let me get your thoughts on that. >> i think it's extremely important. those of us in arizona have borne the brunt of the federal government's failure to have a secure border for years now, and so it was important in this legislation to have some triggers, to say that until we have certain measurements at the border and certain levels of security then we can't move onto the other items of the bill. i think these are achievable, we'll have a hearing with secretary napolitano tomorrow the first hearing on this bill, another hearing on monday. we'll go through regular order to make sure we have input but in the end i think we'll have increased border security and a system of legal immigration moving ahead that will help this

country out significantly. jon: do i have it right that those who are here illegally would nice a wait of at least 13 years to become legalized citizens under this plan as it stands now? >> that is correct. it's a hard and arduous path for those who are here illegally. if they seek to become a citizen, for them to get there involves payment of fees and fines and long waits on probation, basically. and then more fees and fines, and this is the requirement to learn english has moved up to green card sit tuesday not just citizen -- status not just citizenship. it's important. what you can't do is reward those who have come here illegally over those who have gone through the legal orderly process. we think this bill strikes that balance and it will be good for all of us. jon: final question, senator, there's been the ricin scare as you well know on capitol hill. your own office received some letters that were thought to be suspicious, but i guess turned out not to contain ricin. just your thoughts about that

kind of thing as a public servant at a time like this? >> you know, it's extremely worrying. when somebody targets a senator by sending something through the mail it doesn't reach the senator, it obviously is handled by postal employees and then the staff, and so it's extremely concerning to us, and my office i think was right to flag some suspicious letters that came through. fortunately it turned out to be harmless, but we're all a bit on edge over here. jon: yeah, senator jeff flake we can certainly understand why and we'll let you get back to your hearing. republican from arizona, thank you. >> thank you. jenna: we are awaiting remarks from the president at a memorial service honoring the victims of the boston marathon terror attack. up next we'll speak to a security expert who says right now, today, we can rise up against those who aim to do us harm. how you can refuse to be terrorized. some important perspective on a busy news day, next.

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stablizing. let's look at regions where people are specially optimistic. in real estate they always say it is about the locality where you are. where are they most optimistic the prices will increase in their neighborhood? the west. 62% of people surveyed in the west expect their prices to go up. in the south it is 48%. in the midwest it is 47% and the south east it is 49%. upper income americans they say are especially positive about the home-buying market. jon: and is the housing market rebounding? >> well, depend again where you live. for instance we got the case-shiller price index where they were looking at january's increases and prices have been going up. places in new york city they only went up .6 of a percent. atlanta, 4% in january. chicago 3.3%. it against where you live. miami was up ten.8%.

las vegas up 6.3%. at the end of the day, jon, we haven't recovered to the peaks of the housing market in 2006 but prices going up gets you there. the question is how long? some people say it could take ten or 20 years. jon: wow, ten or 20 years? >> reporter: to get back to the peak. jon: adam shapiro thank you. jenna: well, right now in boston a memorial service underway honoring the victims it of the marathon terror attacks. it is being held at a cathedral in boston's south end just about a mile away from the site where these attacks happened on monday. those attacks still fresh in so many of our minds. during times like this perspective is certainly important which brings us to our next guest. the security expert and author sharing some advice how to cope in the wake of the bombings, easy to feel scared and powerless but he says the one thing everyone can do to make terrorism ineffective is to refuse to be terrorized.

rick snyder is with us now. he published the article in the atlantic on monday night. bruce, speaking personally, really resonated with me, so glad to have you on to share perspective with our viewers. how do we refuse to be terrorized in such a scary situation, a scary time? >> well, it's hard. we are fearful. these are scary times and we don't have a lot of information and lack of information means we make up stuff, we invent stories and we're scared. the problem is, that's what the terrorists want. terrorism is a crime against our minds. the bodies and the bombings and the horror are props to make us fearful, to make us distrustful. if we don't do that, if we just steadfastly refuse to do that, we deny the terrorists victory. so it is hard. maybe we can't do it yet but we need to deliberately refuse to be terrorized. jenna: bruce, how do you do that, personally? >> i'm a security guy. i have a lot of perspective.

i understand what's going on. so for me i can be a little dispassionate and i can come off that way and that's difficult. but, you have to separate your feelings from the reality. so we --. jenna: let's dig a little into that. because of a security expert one of the things you offered in the article is context for how often these attacks happen. how likely we to see them. we share some of that perspective with our viewers as well. >> that is important. we see things in the news and the definition of news is something that almost never happens. you will never report 380 million people got home safely today. that is uninteresting. so we see the rare exceptions. we see the spectacular things. all right, the explosion in texas last night. that's what we respond to. but that is so rare. and our brains are fooled. terrorism, because it is spectacular, because its graphic, it is horrific. it is immediate. it is random.

it affects our children, these are things that we naturally overreact to. so we have to recognize that our fears are not entirely rational. that we are overreacting. if we can do that, we can step back and say, these are not the real threats. that our society is much bigger an that this. we're safer from terrorism now. airplane terrorism is much bigger in the 80s than it was in the past decade. no one thinks of it that way. jenna: you wrote a book on this, that trust in society. anecdotally whether conversations with friends and family or even on the news sometimes the conversation drifts in this area, oh, it is our americanness. it is being american that makes us so trustworthy and makes us expect to be safe when we walk out into the streets and watch a marathon. somehow that, we're wrong to feel that way or maybe we should be thinking differently. what do you say to people that are reflecting upon it and thinking, man, just

because we are who we are, that we're falling victim to this? >> well, we are trusting. that is what makes america great. trusting society's. it is easy to start businesses. easy to make friends. easier to move. easier to live. no one wants to live in a low trust society. low trust society you're scared. you can't do anything. so that is what makes america great and you can go to a movie theater to a marathon, to a sporting event and to a restaurant that feels safe. there are rare exception, but their months have not magically become more dangerous. schools are not magically more dangerous. neither are chemical plants. we safer than we were anytime else in our history. and we need to remember that, and act that way. and yes, there will be exceptions. we're never 100% safe. that is part of life. and what makes america great are our liberties. are our freedoms and i think they're worth keeping. >> appreciate the

perspective. we appreciate the article as well. we'll put it up on our website. we look forward to talking to you again, sir. thank you. >> thank you. jon: well the people that lot of their lives in that attack that bruce was talking about are being remembered right now in boston at the cathedral there, about a mile or so from the spot where the bombs went off from that glorious race on monday. we'll continue to cover this memorial service. president and mrs. obama are there. the president will be speaking. we'll take you back there live in just a moment.

jon: right now in a cathedral in boston an interfaith memorial service is underway to honor the boston marathon bombing victims who lot of their lives and were so badly injured on monday. president obama is among the speakers. let's listen in as this service progresses.

>> cardinal sean o'malley here in his own church, the cathedral of the holy cross. >> my dear brothers and sisters, dear friend, on behalf of all our catholic community i wish to welcome all of you here to the cathedral of the holy cross. it's an honor to have our president, our governor and our mayor with us here this morning. we're so grateful to governor patrick for initiating this prayer service. we're delighted that metropolitan theodus and reverend liz walker and many leaders from the various churches and faith communities could join us here today. our holy father pope francis asked me to communicate to you his sentments of love and support. the holy father invokes god's peace upon our dead, consolation upon the suffering, and god's

strength upon all those engaged in the continuing work of relief and response. the holy father prays that we will be united in the resolve not to be overcome by evil but to combat evil with good. working together to build an ever more just, free and secure society for generations to come. this year's patriots' day celebrations were marched by an act of senseless violence that's caused all of us great shock and pain. it is made us relive the horror of september the 11th and is a stark reminder of the darkness that can lurk in the human heart and produce such evil. and yet the same tragedy has brought us together as a community like nothing else ever could. the generous and courageous response of so many assures

us that there resides in people's heart as goodness that is incredibly selfless. we saw that when summoned by great events, we can be remarkably committed to the well-being of others, even total strangers. we become a stronger people, a more courageous people, a more noble people. the police, emergency workers, and even by standers and passers by did not hesitate to put themselves in harm's way to help the injured and the frightened. our presence here today is an act of solidarity, first of all with those who lost their lives and we're so happy that krystel campbell's family is here in the cathedral with us. we are also in solidarity with those injured in the explosion and wish to express our desire to support them and their families and loved once.

this patriots' day shakes us out of our complacency and indifference and calls us to focus on the task of building a civilization that is based on love and justice. we do not want to risk losing the legacy of those first patriots who were willing to lay down their lives for the common good. we must overcome the culture of death by promoting a culture of life, of profound respect for each and every human being made in the image and likeness of god and we must cultivate a desire to give our lives if the service of others. last week, i was in galilee on the mount of the beatudes with 30 priests from boston on a retreat. there we prayed and listen to the very gospel that was read for us here this morning.

the sermon on the mount is a description of the life of people gathered by and around the lord. often in the gospels we can see the contrast between the crowd and the community. the crowd is made up of self-absorbed individuals, each one focused on his or her own interests in competition with the conflicting projects of others. a community is where people come to value each other, to find their own identity in being part of something bigger than themselves, working together for the common good. the circle mon on the mount in many ways is the constitution of the people called to live a new life. jesus gives us a new way it deal with offenses, by reconciliation. jesus gives us a new way to deal with violence by non-violence. he gives use new way to deal

with money by sharing and providing for those in need. jesus bys us a new way of dealing with leadership by drawing upon the gifts of every person, each one a child of god. in the face of the present tragedy we must ask ourselves, what kind of a community do we want to be? what are the ideals that we want to pass onto the next generation? it can not be violence, hatred and fear. the jewish people speak of repairing the world. god has entrusted us with precisely that task, to prepare, repair our broken world. we can not do it as a collection of individuals. we can only do it together as a community, as a family. like every tragedy, monday's

events are a challenge and an opportunity for us to work together with the renewed spirit of determination and solidarity and with the firm conviction that love is stronger than death. may ours be the sentments of st. francis of assisi who prayed, lord, make me an instrument of your peace where there is hatred, let me sew love, where there is injury, pardon, where there is doubt, faith, where there is despair, hope, where there is darkness, light, where there is sadness, joy. oh divine master grant that i may not so much seek to be consoled as to console, to be understood as to understand. to be loved as to love. for it is in giving that we receive. it is in pardoning that we are pardoned, and it is in dying that we are born to

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>> the governor of the commonwealth of massachusetts, deval patrick. >> in my faith tradition scripture teaches in everything give thanks. that isn't always easy to do. on monday afternoon i was not feeling it. what i felt, what so many of us felt then was shock and confusion and anger. but the nature of faith i think is learning to return to the lessons even when they don't make sense, when they defy logic. and as i return to those lessons this week i found a few things to be thankful for.

i'm thankful for the firefighters and police officers and emts who ran toward the places, not knowing whether the attack was over and the volunteers and other civilians who ran to help right alongside them. i'm thankful for the medical professionals for the doctors and trauma nurses and to the housekeeping staff restored order and started the methodical work of piecing together what happened and who is responsible. i'm thankful for mayor menino who started monday morning --

[applause] >> mayor menino started monday morning frustrated he couldn't be at the finish line this time as he always is, and then late afternoon, late that afternoon checked himself out of the hospital to help this city, our city face down this tragedy. i'm thankful for those who have given blood to the hospitals, money to the one fund, and prayers and messages of consolation and encouragement from all over the world. i'm thankful for the presence and steadfast support of the president and first lady, our many former governors who are here -- [applause] >> i thank you.

i'm thankful for the other civic and political leaders here today, and for the many, many faith leaders who have ministered to us today and in the days since monday. i'm thankful for the lives of kry sal, and link zee and little martin and for the lives of the families that survive them. and for the lives of all the people hurt but still woke up today with the hope of tomorrow. and i am thankful maybe most especially for the countless numbers of people in this proud city and historic commonwealth who in the aftermath of such senseless violence let their first instinct be kindness in a dark hour so many of you showed so many of us that darkness cannot drive out darkness, as

dr. king said, only light can do that. how very strange that the coward dust unleashed on us should come on marathon day, on day pre at' day, patriot as day. the first battle of the american republican luigs. just as we are taught at times like this not to lose touch with our spiritual faith, that i let us also not lose touch with our civic faith. massachusetts invented america. and america -- [applause] >> america is not organized the way countries are usually

organized. we are not organized around a common language, or religion or even culture. we are organized around a handful of civic ideals and we have defined those ideals over time and through struggle as equality, opportunity, freedom, and fair play. and attack on our civic ritual like the marathon, especially on patriots' day is an attack on those values. just as we can't permit darkness and hate to are triumph over our spiritual faith so we must not permit darkness and hate to triumph oe over our civic ideals, and we will not. so we will recover and repair. we will grieve our losses and

heal. we will rise and we will endure. we will have accountability without vengeance. vigilance without fear. and we will remember, i hope and pray, long after the buzz of boylston street is back, and the media has turned its attention elsewhere, that the grace this tragedy exposed is the best of who we are. fellow citizens, i am honored -- [applause] >> i am honored and humbled to welcome our friend, our leader, our commander-in-chief, the president of the united states. [applause]

>> thank you. hello, boston. >> welcome! >> scripture tells us to run with endurance the race that is set before us. run with endurance the race that is set before us. on monday morning the sun rows over boston -- rose over

boston. sunlight glistened off the state house dome. in the common, in the public gardens spring was in bloom. on this patriots' day, like so many before fans jumped onto the tee to see the sox at fenway, and in ho hopkinton runners laced on their shoes and went off on a 26.2-mile test of grit and human spirit. and across this city hundreds of thousands bostonians lined the streets to hand the runners cups of water and to cheer them on. it was a beautiful day to be in

boston. a day that explains why a poet once wrote that this town is not just a capitol, not just a place, boston, he said, is the perfect state of grace. [applause] >> and then in an instant the day's beauty fus was shattered, a celebration became a tragedy, and so we come together to pray and mourn and measure our loss. but we also come together today to reclaim that state of grace,

to reaffirm that the spirit of this city is undaunted, and the spirit of this country shall remain. to governor patrick, mayor menino, to cardinal o'malley and all the faith leaders who are here, governors romney, swift, weld and du and due caucus, and the people of boston and the families who have lost a piece of your heart, we thank you for your leadership, we thank you for your courage, we thank you no for your grace. i'm here today on behalf of the american people with a simple message, every one of us has been touched by this attack on

your beloved city. every one of us stands with you. because after all it's our beloved city too. boston may be your hometown, but we claim it too. it's one of america's iconic cities, it's one of the world's great cities, and one of the reasons the world knows boston so well is that boston opens its heart to the world. over successive generations you've welcomed again and again new arrivals to our shores. immigrants who constantly reinvigorated this city and this commonwealth and our nation.

every fall you welcome students from all across america and all across the globe, and every spring you graduate them back into the world, a boston diaperia that excells in every human endeavour. year after year you welcome the greatest talents in the arts, in science, research, you welcome them to your concert halls and your hospitals and laboratories to exchange ideas and insights that draw this world together. and every third monday in april you welcome people from all around the world to the hub for friendship and fellowship and

healthy competition. a gathering of men and women of every race, and every religion, every shape, and every size, a multitude represented by all those flags that flew over the finish line. so whether folks come here to boston for just a day or they stay here for years, they leave with a piece of this town tucked firmly into their hearts. so, boston is your hometown, but we claim it a little bit too. [applause] >> i know this. [applause] >> i know this because there is a piece of boston in me.

you welcomed me as a young law student across the river, welcomed michelle too. [applause] >> you welcomed me during a convention when i was still a state senator and very few people could pronounce my name right. [laughter] >> like you, michelle and i have walked these streets. like you we know these neighborhoods. and like you, in this moment of grief, we join you in saying, boston, you're my home. for millions of us what happened on monday is personal. it's personal.

today our prayers are with the campbell family of medford, they are here today, their daughter krystal was always smiling. those who knew her said that with her red hair and her frequent h freckles and her ever eagerness to speak her mind she was beautiful, sometimes she could be a little noisy and everybody loved her for it. she would have turned 30 next month. as her mother said through her tears, this doesn't make any sense. our prayers are with the lu family of china who sent their daughter to bu so she could experience all that this city has to offer.

she was a 23-year-old student, far from home, and in the heartache of her family and friend on both sides of the great ocean we are reminded of the humanity that we all share. our prayers are with the richard family of dorchester. to denise, and their young daughter jane as we fight to recover, and our hearts are broken for 8-year-old martin with his big smile and bright eyes. his last hours were as perfect as an 8-year-old boy could hope for, with his family, eating ice cream at a sporting event. we're left with two enduring images of this little boy,

forever smiling for his beloved bruins, and forever expressing a wish he made on a blue posterboard. no more hurting people. peace. no more hurting people. peace. our prayers are with the injured, so many wounded, some gravely. from their beds some are surely watching us gather here today, and if you are, know this. as you begin this long journey of recovery your city is with you, your commonwealth is with you, your country is with you, we will all be with you as you learn to stand and walk and, yes, run again, of that i have no doubt, you will run again.

[applause] sph* you wil >> you will run again, because that's what the people of boston are made of. your resolve is the greatest rebuke to whoever committed this heinous act. if they sought to intimidate us, to terrorize us, to shake us from those values that duval described, the values that make us who we are as american, well it should be pretty clear by now that they picked the wrong city to do it. [applause] >> not here in boston.

[applause] >> not here in boston. [applause] you've shown us, boston, that in the face of evil americans will lift up what is good. in the face of cruelty we will choose compassion. in the face of those who would visit death upon innocents, we will choose to save in the comfort and to heal.

we'll choose friendship. we'll choose love. the scripture teaches us, god has not given us a spirit of fear and timidity, but a power, love, and self-discipline. and that's the spirit you've displayed in recent days. when doctors and nurses, police, and firefighters, and emt's, and guardsmen run towards explosions to treat the wounded that is discipline. when exhausted runners, including our troops and veterans who never expected to see such carnage on the streets back home become first

responders themselves, tending to the injured, that's real power. when bostonians carry victims in their arms, deliver water and blankets, line up to give blood, open their homes to total strangers, give them rides back to reunite with their families, that's love. that's the message we send to those who carried this out and anyone who would do harm to our people. yes, we will find you, and, yes, you will face justice.

>> we will find you, we will hold you accountable, but more than that our fidelity to our way of life, to our free and open society will only grow stronger. for god has not given us the spirit of fear and timid ity, but one of power and love, and self-discipline. like bill effrig, 78 years old, the runner in the orange tank top who we all saw get knocked down by the blast, we may be momentarily knocked off our feet, but we'll pick ourselves up. we'll keep going. we will finish the race. [applause]

in the words of dick hoyt who pushed his disabled son rick in 31 boston mayor o marathons, we can't let something like this stop us. [applause] >> this doesn't stop us. [applause] >> that's what you've taught us, boston, that's what you've reminded us, to push on, to persevere, to not grow weary, to not get faint, even when it hurts, even when our heartaches we summon the strength that maybe we didn't even know we had and we carry on, we finish the race.

[applause] >> we finish the race and we do that because of who we are, and we do that because we know that somewhere around the bend a stranger has a cup of water. around the bends somebody is there to boost our spirits. on that toughest mile, just when we think that we've hit a wall, someone will be there to cheer us on and pick us up if we fall. we know that. [applause] >> and that's what the perpetrators of such seven les seven less violence, these small, stunted individuals, who

would destroy instead of build and somehow think that makes them look information, that's what they don't understand, our faith in each other, our love for each other, our love for country, our common creed that cuts across whatever superficial differences there may be, that is our power. that's our strength. that's why a bomb can't beat us. that's why we don't h u.n. ke -p thahunker down and could coulcower in near. we carry on, we race, we strive, we build and we work and we love and we raise our kids to do the same, and we come together to celebrate life and to walk our cities and to cheer for our teams when the sox and sel and

celtiv and bruins are calm here upons again to the chagrin of new york, the crowds will gather and go down boylston street and this time the third month in april people will return to this city to run harder than ever and cheer even louder for the 118th boston marathon. [applause] >> tomorrow the sun will rise

over boston. tomorrow the sun will rise over this country that we love. this special place, this state of grace. scripture tells us to run with endurance the race that is set before us. as we do may god hold close those who have been taken from us too soon. may he comfort their families, and may he continue to watch over these united states of america. [applause] >> words of comfort and encouragement from the 44th president of the united states barack obama.

jon: president obama kissing his wife pheurb well after his remarks at the cathedral of the hole flee cross, a service incredibly somber and at times raubg cuss. you heard the president there lift this capacity crowd to his feet about his remarks about boston and it's sports teams coming back. jenna: right now in the boston marathon terror attack what is in a recording captured by a department store camera could potentially be a huge break in the hunt for those responsible. chief intelligence catherine herridge is live from washington with more. >> reporter: well thank you. in addition to the video and the still images and investigative source tells fox news that there is quote a significant social media foot print on the bombings providing new leads to investigators. more than 30,000 social media messages collected within a one-mile radius of the finish line from 24 hours before to 24 hours after the explosions with twitter and facebook lighting up

after the attack the social media generated what are called link analysis charts which showed their relationships between the social media messages that met investigative criteria. fox news was told investigative criteria in this case included messages that seemed out of place or coded with the result being provided to federal agencies leading the investigation. fox news is also told that the battery in one of the devices is of investigative interest. while the manufacturer says it's extremely common tens of thousands are sold every year the battery is most often found in radio-controlled toys. rather than purchase a battery package with a dozen or so double or aaa batteries the bomb maker chose to go an extra step to purchase an item, withdraw the battery from it and use it as the power source in the bomb. fox news understands there are at least two individuals the fbi wants to identify and talk to in connection to the investigation. fox news has confirmed that the feds possess at least one image

that shows a young man who may be dropping a bag near the blast site in boston. on the hill secretary janet napolitano a short time ago defendess the pace of the investigation. >> the investigation is proceeding apace and it just -- this is not an ncis episode, sometimes you have to take time to properly, you know, put the chain together to identify the perpetrators. but everyone is committed to seeing that that gets done in the right way. >> reporter: we have several tracks of new information that we're developing and when we confirm that we will bring it to you, jenna. jenna: some interesting thoughts and leads there for sure. more as we get it, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. jon: president obama lashing out at the gun lobby and the senate after the defeat of his effort to pass new gun laws. one by one the senate blocked a series of measures including a compromise proposal to expand background checks. it was hammered out by republican pat toomey of pennsylvania and democrat joe

manchin of west virginia. a majority of senator senators supported the bill but it fell short of the 60 votes needed to advance. president obama denounced the senate action saying this night is not over. >> all in all this was a pretty shameful day for washington. this effort is not over. i want to make it clear to the american people, we can still bring about meaningful changes that reduce gun violence so long as the american people don't give up on it. even without congress my administration will keep doing everything it can to protect more than our communities. jon: steven hayes is a writer for "the weekly standard" and a contribute. interesting language from the president. he says my administration will continue doing everything we can. a lot of observers have said that if he really wanted this legislation passed he could have done a lot more to try to support it. >> yeah, jon. i think that's right. what i'm struck by particularly

after listening to the president's moving speech up in boston this afternoon is the difference in tone from the president yesterday when he was clearly angry, almost indignant about the failure of the toomey ph-pbg manchin and the language he used calling red state democrats cowardly and week. this is tough stuff from the president indicating that he was upset because it's something he wanted to pass and it didn't pass, and that he is dogged in wanting to continue to pursue this. jon: he accused those who were against it of having willfully lied about the bill and its contents. that is also pretty strong. >> yeah, very strong. and he singled out of course the nra, and suggested that the senators who voted against it could have only done so out of sort of fear that the nra and

political lobbies like the nra would have come after them. this was all political. i think it's a little bit of a difficult argument. of course nobody suggests that there weren't politics at play in these votes. as the president continued to argue yesterday in that speech and as the white house has argued all along they've got 90-some percent of americans tphaeufrg some kind of background check or not, one would think that if you vote in defines of that public sentiment that at some point principle has to factor in, at least for some of these voters. the president never really entertained that possibility and said this was all pure politics and that's why he was so disgusted. >> max baucus he voted against the proposal. when asked to explain it he had one word, montana. that was his explanation. the voters back home at least in states like montana don't much like the regulation that washington is bringing forward. >> yeah, i think that's right. i mean a loft these senators who

voted against will tell you that they were doing what they think their constituents wanted. i think also if you go further i mean woepb of the things i heard talking to staffers and some senators over the past several days about this issue is that it's no longer good enough to have sort of the word of legislators, the word of people in washington that there won't be, for instance, a national gun registry. i think people feel misled by washington on so many different occasions whether it's the healthcare bill and the claim or the promise that you'll be able to keep your insurance if you like it, you know, a number of these things that have come out of washington which have just evened up not being true. i think it has created additional skepticism among a the a lot of americans. >> harry reid has said the fight is not over and that he says he will continue working to get some kind of gun control repbl legislation passed. is that really going to happen? >> no, i don't think it is. i think if the fight weren't really over i suspect the

president would have taken quite a different tone yesterday. you know, the president by i think castigating, again, red state demas republicans, really ended whatever hopes there were for further gun control measures down the road by basically alien eighting -- alienating and demonize tpha demonizing the people he would need if he waor really going to push it. jon: thank you. jenna: new challenges following that massive explosion at a texas fertilizer plant. there is a desperate search for survivors going on and the job could soon get more difficult. we will update you on that. new developments in the case of a pair of poison letter, one sent to a mississippi senator, the other to the president. we have brand-new lab results next. president. we have brand new lab results next. ♪

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jenna: welcome back everyone. just after 1230 east coast time. one of our top stories a massive explosion at a small town in texas. a deadly blast at a fertilizer plant causing devastation for miles. the blast leveled buildings for blocks in every direction. right now search-and-rescue operations underway with crews going house-to-house searching for anyone trapped in the rubble. the factory was on fire when the explosion shook the ground with the force of a small earthquake. the blast was felt 80 miles

away in dallas. one witness sitting in a car with his daughter shooting this video when the blast goes off. >> are you okay? >> i can't hear. i can't hear. get out of here. please get out of here. >> oh, my god. >> please get out of here. please get out of here. oh, my god. jenna: hard to hear the pleas of that child but you can certainly understand the emotion when that happens. police say as many as 15 people may be dead. several firefighters are missing or unaccounted for. more than 160 people are injured. first-responders fear the death toll could rise as the day goes on. >> as soon as i ran up there was a woman holding two babies and --, they were soaked in blood. and one of them was, one of the babies looked it like it wasn't responding. it is just horrible to see something like that. jenna: federal investigators

are on the scene right now. the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms and explosives sending a national response team including fire investigators, explosive experts chemists and k-9 units. now we're hearing warnings sent out to firefighters at the scene. >> we need every ambulance we can get this morning. a bomb just went off inside here. it is pretty bad. we got a lot of firemen down. >> firefighters down. again there has been an explosion. there are firefighters down. >> the rest home has been seriously damaged. we have many people down. please, please respond. >> i'm getting everybody i can. you have deputy, you have belmeade fire, you have ems i'm sending everybody i've got. jenna: we're following the story and it is still developing. we'll bring you any updates as we get them. jon? jon: there are some new developments to tell you about in the boston marathon terror attack investigation. homeland security secretary

janet napolitano testifying today about the fbi's efforts to i'd high those responsible. she answered questions about the surveillance video that captured the scene of the bombing. >> there is some video that has raised the question of those that the fbi would like to speak with. i wouldn't characterize them as suspects under the technical term. but we need the public's help in locating these individuals. jon: jonathan gilliam is a former fbi special agent with the joint terrorism task force and former navy seal and federal air marshal. the law enforcement circulated pictures of these people they wanted to talk to supposed lid internally and pictures end up on front pages of major newspapers. is that a good thing? is that helpful? >> depends on who leaked it and it was purposely, i'm not real clear why some of these leaks get out but, but

again, when i was talking yesterday about the way the bureau does investigations, they have a plan and they have a methodology. it is unconventional and you can't really try to second-guess what the investigators are doing and that's why i tried to, when i see something like that instead of thinking the worst, as though it was leaks, unintentionally, i tried to hope for the best. jon: so, you know, we've got, i mean the possibility that these guys that they at least want it talk to, they're persons of interest at least. got the possibility that they could hightail it to mexico or venezuela or some other place. >> right, sure. jon: the best we can hope for is that law enforcement is going too much catch up with them before they have a chance to make a move. >> again, we began this atmosphere of leaks in law enforcement over the past several years as things become increasingly more tense and in some of these different investigations. i know some of them are not

authorized and i just don't understand where the loyalty is of some of these law enforcement officers but again, i have to hope for the best. jon: you say the battery is going to be very crucial to this investigation. why? >> well, that is not a normal battery. that is something that comes normally in a toy or some kind of remote-controlled vehicle or airplane or something of that sort. jon: so you can't run out and buy a whole pack of these? >> not typically. this might have been actually placed, again, i'm not privy to the stuff when i was with the bureau in november. looks like it may be attached already to a circuit board or the wires may have come preattached. i'm not sure. these batteries you get in hobby stores or they come in a toy. jon: you say, some people have looked at what happened there and said, it's, it's a

scene that you couldn't have protected. you say there are things that could have been done? >> absolutely. again, i don't want to second-guess or place any blame but, as an unconventional warfare expert and having ran special events in the bureau for many, many years, one thing that we tend to look at or should be looked at is these critical areas at critical times. that is definitely a critical area, the finish line of a marathon where you will have the highest concentration of people, that and at the very beginning. for that area not to be locked down to me is, you're just opening your sell up to a potential attack. jon: i'm sure those are things they're going to be looking at at the boston marathon in years forward. >> right. jon: jonathan, thank you very much. >> thank you. jon: jenna? jenna: right now on capitol hill the president's pick for labor secretary is on the hot seat. the questions some republicans have about the

nominee's past and what are calling controversial decisions. he is denying that. we'll have a live report on the status who would be our next labor secretary. dramatic video just into fox, a sinkhole swallowing cars on a city street. the story and more pictures next. ♪

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these thunderstorms. stretches 8 to 900 miles from the great lakes down into cities in texas. we have number of tornado watches meaning conditions are favorable for tornados to develop in storms. 5:00 p.m. central time is the one that includes parts of arkansas, missouri, even into illinois. widespread area that could be seen in storms. flooding has been reported in the city of chicago. we actually want to show you video of a sinkhole. reportedly three cars that were swallowed up by this sinkhole. one person was injured. it had to be hospitalized. and we also have reports that flooding was caused, some expressways to actually be closed and major expressways and hundreds of flights canceled at chicago's o'hare airport. extreme weather going on today. the same storm system that is producing gusty wind in city of west texas where we had the massive explosion earlier or yesterday. jenna: good information for our viewers, maria. thank you. >> thank you.

jon: take a look at the dow, off 51 points right now, amid economic fears about the strength of the market in this country or the strength of the economy i should say. the philadelphia fed's manufacturing index dropped substantially at a time when everyone was expecting it to rise a little bit. that led to fears along with fears of a recession that is under way in europe and some softness in the chinese economy that we are far from out of the woods in the worldwide economic situation in the dow. the dow is down 45 points right now. jenna: well the ricin poison scare is rattling washington and quite frankly the country. an eerie reminder of deadly anthrax attacks right after 9/11. our next guest on the lessons we have not learned since then [ male announcer ] extreme power. ultimate savings. get both now at your polaris dealer during the xp sales event.

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jenna: right now the ricin scare that has been rattling washington, source tells fox news poison found on a letter sent to the president and mississippi senator roger wicker was quote low-grade and not weaponized. paul kevin curtis is in federal custody charged with threatening the president and others. thankfully the ricin was detected in a federal facility and the letters never made to their destinations. this is scar rye reminder of the deadly anthrax attacks that after the 9/11 attacks. in those attacks 17 were killed, from anthrax-laced letters. such letters were sent to the office of then senate majority leader, tom daschle and patrick leahy. list turned up at multiple media outlets. the army doctor that became

the same suspect killed himself before charges could be brought. the case was officially closed. dr. scott gottlieb is former commissioner of the food and drug administration. given the context this week doc, we thought it was worth talking about how prepared we are. what is the risk to us, not just the lawmakers or the media about these sort of, these sort of attacks? >> we're more prepared than we were. we forward-deployed sniffing devices to detect things in the environment and i will pound mail that goes to official facilities like capitol hill or white house. this person must have known that this mail could be intercepted but that doesn't absolve of the clumsy murder attempt. he did everything but put his address and fingerprints on envelope. the real risk is not necessarily organized plot or someone trying to perpetrate a terrorist the act but a lone mad scientist with diabolical intent with a apocalyptic vision who has the means to reengineer a

virus or a bug. jenna: when we get that scenario, it brings us to the movies. what is the worst case scenario? when people ask you that what do you think is the case scenario when it comes to this substance? >> worst-case scenario, someone who is smart and ph.d scientist and knows how to work on genetic materials like the movie 12 monkeys. jenna: we're into speculation but not necessarily ricin or anthrax or something we know of? >> ricin is not a very potent killer. it is used in the past for targeted as nations but none on the list of 12 compounds the government says is major threats. we're not developing countermeasures to it. anthrax is a potent killer. the government is concerned about that. there are antidotes and vax seep for that. there are still threats. things like anthrax or botulinum can be distributed on a mass scale in a mass attack. jenna: scary thing about that you mentioned in a recent article for fox there are things we have done

right and things that we put in place for anyone receiving letters with these type of substances in them. >> the forward technology works. you go into places like grand central station you see some of the devices. they have markings from the epa on it. we also had some project bio shield and some other legislation that create ad group within the department of health and services to contract for things like vaccines and antidotes for some of these agents. we haven't funded early stage science looking at next generation of science to help protect us against future threats. jenna: being you worked in the government and the private sector what do you think is the government's role in that? some of us think, the government must have vials of antidotes stashed somewhere when something happens to help us. where is the government's role in this? where is the private sector and how do we best prepare if that is something we should be watching for? >> we'll have to provide substantial incentives for people to do the investment there is no natural market. the government is only purchaser.

they trade the antidotes to hope to get stockpiled by the government and that is not a good environment. when companies lose out they run to congress and campaign. we need to come up with different emzoo to create insent testifies for -- incentives for companies to get involved in. for companies that have a hard to find innocencing as a way to get financing. this is talked about with progressives a prized based system because they don't like pharmaceutical based patents. when it comes to these kind of drugs where there is no natural markets a prize based civil might work. provide handsome financial rewards for things that meet public health specification. >> a lot to think about. thanks so much. jon? jon: a touching tribute to boston sports as they came together in the wake of that terrible tragedy.

>> jon: folks across the country and around the world coming together to support the victims of the marathon bombings and really the people of boston. because of the terror attacks, the boston bruins postponed their game scheduled for monday night. they were back on the ice last night. and what began as the traditional singing of the national anthem before the game ended up becoming a show of solidarity and prism ♪ for the land of the free ♪ and the home of the brave [cheers and applause] >> jon: that is what it sounds like when 17,000 fans raise their voices as one. it's too bad it was so dark in there. people were wipin